The "Cache" story being talked about is at
http://www.very.net/~nikolai/sf/cache1.html
Read the Veritas story at
http://www.karitas.net/pavilion/veritas/archive/veritas01.txt
From astraea@astraeasweb.net Mon Nov 5 22:35:16 2001
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:43:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Astraea
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: Note I sent
I have heard that some of the best science fiction is set no more than 50 years
in the future. So yeah, a bit more high tech than now, but let's make it as
earth-like as possible, cause this is a what-if story.. what if WE ran the
universe & singlets had to prove their sanity before we'd let'em so much as flip
hamburgers. And he don't have access to a lot of the high tech gadgets we have
now, until he proves he's not a danger to himself or others. Since the world is
run by multiples, we would have invented many things that singlets wouldn't have
come up with -- wouldn't have had to. Like those nameplates in "Cache" that
change depending on who's up. Gabriel
From pbw@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:16 2001
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:05:19 -0500
From: pbw@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas,
OOC Strings, by Courts (Admin)
Okay! Here should be the ooc spam.
Astraea brought up some really good points--first was the tech level, which we
agreed to Gabriel's idea that 50 years max would be better.
Next question is tech itself. I don't know about anyone else, but tech that
synchs itself to a user at an intimate level (like reading biowaves, etc) would
glitch itself to high heaven on us, we're betting. Would plural-society tech be
traveling in the same sort of direction, or would it be slightly more unique?
We have this question up with our RPed multiples, who are in a heavy future
setting. They're researching more 'bio-organic' stuff, which they can understand
better and which gets along with them.
Any ideas?
From pbw@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:16 2001
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:05:19 -0500
From: pbw@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas,
Characters, by Courts (Admin)
*attaches a characters board*
This is a setting and a story which can go anywhere. It's not limited to poor
John Smith's activities alone. So far, we've ideas like:
- John Smith, our singlet of the month
- another singlet who's 'out' about it, and consequently gets all the press down
hir spine and does talk shows. He can be our Sybil or our Truddi or whichever.
And He Shall be Named Freddy Mercury. Um. No. (scaramouche scaramouche)
- a doctor-type who's trying to help John 'for his own good', possibly involved
with the other singlet for research, but still comes off as staring at singlets
as curiosities despite it
And so on. Also it's not unlikely that other multiples will be doing research or
studies on other worlds and so forth, so that's fun too. We can have multiples
afraid they're singlets, multiples having relationship issues with singlet-types
and frustrated about it, etc.
Anyone who wants to play any of these (including Smith), feel free to!
From astraea@astraeasweb.net Mon Nov 5 22:35:16 2001
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 15:37:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Astraea
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: notes for game, answer to mine
From: Courts (Admin)
To: Astraea Title: RE:Setting
I definately liked the nameplates in Cache. First question was 'how they'd do
that? Monitor bioreadings and manually input the names' and so on, which brought
up questions with tech and synching (we ramble about that with our rping
multiples.) And what about two people up, etc... Then we realized that people
manually just turning them on and off would work too. Let's do no more than 50
years then. Lemme start up a line of questions on the ooc board (which will
exist soon, I will make it so!) on that, come to think.
From astraea@astraeasweb.net Mon Nov 5 22:35:16 2001
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 15:49:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Astraea
Subject: a post I made to OOC
You said "I don't know about anyone else, but tech that synchs itself to a user
at an intimate level (like reading biowaves, etc) would glitch itself to high
heaven on us"
But not on us. We don't have that effect on electrical or electromagnetic
systems, no matter who's out, how much we switch or how upset we are. Jade Alice
and Jenny Iris wore normal everyday watches for years; my preference for a
pocket watch is because I'm a cantankerous old cuss, not because watches stop or
turn backwards or the hands fall off or anything.
So, this sort of thing should be taken into account; just the same way that some
people can drink coffee and some can't. Different technology for different
systems. The subtleties can be worked in.
We should show the everyday prejudices against singlets. There are no singlet
heroes or heroines of TV or film. Everytime a singlet appears in same, he's a
mad killer or a bank robber because he's got nobody to ride herd on him.
Singlets are portrayed as going nuts because they're all alone in there with
nobody to talk to. Gabe
From pbw@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:16 2001
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 16:06:16 -0500
From: pbw@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas,
More tech., by Courts (Admin)
"But not on us. We don't have that effect on electrical or electromagnetic
systems, no matter who's out, how much we switch or how upset we are."
*That's* cool. I'm jealous.
It's a good point too. Maybe it's just like how some people are allergic to,
say, types of silver and so they can't wear jewelry of a type... some groups
prefer organic or less-technical devices.
What about medicine too?
"Singlets are portrayed as going nuts because they're all alone in there with
nobody to talk to. " *chokes on her coffee LAUGHING!*
From astraea@astraeasweb.net Mon Nov 5 22:35:16 2001
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 19:42:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Astraea
Subject: The "testing" message on
the game board
Board PlayByWeb.com Testing.
Courts (Admin) Just a check run.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pre-Game
John Smith
Okay. The first opening lines by poor John will be up--or should be--by the end
of this week. The rules are still entirely up in the air, and will be that way
for a long while. Since I'm relatively still recovering my legs, I'll be temping
John Smith along with a few dozen others.
The only things we have established are that the open setting is one of
plurality, rather the reverse of current society. This has been this way for
generations. The occasional singlets are the 'freaks', possible throwbacks to
'genetic disorders.'
There was extended by Reb the idea of 'styles', which probably was heavily
influenced by Friedman's Alien Shore. Styles are the sorts of patterns that
collectives fall under at a given time. For example, Reb wants to have a
character on here whose group takes the Phoenix style usually, which means that
they are a highly changing and dynamically self-destroying and recreating group.
That's the philosophy for their working structure and how they (currently only)
view how they're going to handle themselves in society.
Another style was Wolfpack. That's less formed in thought.
This is interesting to us also because of the question: can plural groups work
together?
Hope to see you all soon!
Souji
From pbw@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:16 2001
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 00:05:34 -0500
From: pbw@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas,
John Smith, by Astraea
** EDITED July 26, 2001, 11:31 pm **
I've tried to describe him in the character description section but.. pardon the
expression.. no dice!
John Smith seems a likeable enough fellow in his mid30s. Probably played by the
same guy who plays Jack Flanders for the ZBS Radio Theatre
(http://www.zbs.org).. But there's something eerie about him.. the way he never
seems to change. Doctors are skeptical that such a bizarre condition could
exist. Imagine, going through life with only one single personality! How does he
stand it? How can he possibly handle daily life stressors on his own? How can he
restrain impulsive behaviour without others to ride herd on him? Can he be
trusted with a job, with children, behind the wheel of a car? Is his condition a
benign aberration, or a threat? Are there others like him? Well, we're about to
find out.....
From pbw@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:16 2001
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 16:05:28 -0500
From: pbw@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas,
Hmm..., by Ladydancer
I could see Dariele being the type to fall in love with a singlet, and not know
it at first, and then come to terms with it. She's just like that. Or, it
could be said, I'm just like that.
In a more sarcastic way, I am that way anyway.
Terre
From pbw@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:16 2001
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 16:05:28 -0500
From: pbw@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas,
Heh., by Ladydancer
You mean they aren't?
::flutters eyelashes innocently::
Hmm, there's that thing with medicine. I can just see the warning label now.
"Make sure certain that the right person gets the medication, and if the wrong
one does, then proceed to the nearest hospital... yadda yadda yadda."
Or some mess like that :)
We have an odd effect on computers. At home, computers are our co-workers in a
few fields, and sometimes it seems that there's carry-over here. A few of our
Computer'd Partners talk to the computers here and find out what the problem is.
Heh. One of these days, we'll have to retell the tale about one of the Partners
and the fight she had with her partner.
So probably things vary. And we're just popping in late ;-)
Terre
From pbw@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:16 2001
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 20:05:39 -0500
From: pbw@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas,
Hmm, by Laric
Even things such as headache medicine... imagine a poor singlet going in for
asprin and finding only a few varieties that you're supposed to take for
different people at different times. Smith could get continual overdoses from
just following the directions.
Or something along those lines, really--what sort of change--if any would there
be in the types and developments of medicines? Would they be more general, to
cover a number of people?
*wanders to play with the background information*
From pbw@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:17 2001
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 10:05:09 -0500
From: pbw@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas,
more on meds..., by Ladydancer
I've thought of that before. Years before where there would be hundreds of
kinds of medications for all kinds of headaches, including what we refer to as
swift changes in forward position headaches.
I think Ashlyn kind of wove some of that into the recent writing.
I have to wonder if there would be a particular design to the medications where
they would be able to find the person that they are supposed to go to, but if a
singlet took them, then it might also act as an overdose.
But it's too early yet, and I still need sleep.
-Storm
From pbw@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:17 2001
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 12:05:10 -0500
From: pbw@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas,
Hmm., by Laric
I can't believe that I posted a Cafe thread right before reading that people
would be going there. Although that's not surprising, considering that we all
seem to be coffee hounds.
One good point that was brought up to us earlier was the general level/type of
plurality for the populace. Would it be full-fledged in the hundreds, or would
everyone be more mid-continuum at a range--which is what seems to be the case,
alibet more suppressed, in days even now?
In which case, the average member-group would have perhaps three to six around
or active... perhaps midcontinuum and so forth, and others further down--
although possibly considered slightly less stable--would be more on the mid-cont
level almost to singlet? The comparison these days to the current model would be
those who are often less than functional for various reasons, would it be?
It's a good question, to count up just how rare or not rare singlicity (hah!
That was a fun word to use) would be.
From pbw@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:17 2001
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 14:05:09 -0500
From: pbw@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas,
Midcontinuum?, by Astraea
"Would it be full-fledged in the hundreds, or would everyone be more mid-
continuum at a range--which is what seems to be the case, albeit more
suppressed, in days even now?"
This depends what you mean by midcontinuum. Even Vicki(s), who invented that
term, agree that it is somewhat "mushy". Originally it was supposed to refer to
people who did not always feel that they were, who didn't sense their others as
distinct persons but felt that they were indeed parts, or aspects, or masks.
Like you read about in the Otherkin-Hosts FAQ.
"In which case, the average member-group would have perhaps three to six around
or active... perhaps midcontinuum and so forth,"
Three to six at a time? You know, we were talking to someone about this, and
they noted that they seem to have a certain finite number of "slots" open for
frontrunners (either to be co-present, or just to be present at all) and if you
don't come to the front for a while you lose your slot and someone else might
take it? We seem to have something resembling this, not exactly.
And I adore the word "singlicity".
Coffee to you! Chiu X
From pbw@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:17 2001
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 16:05:19 -0500
From: pbw@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas,
Coffee, forward position, etc, by Ladydancer
Heh. I do believe that it is in our nature to seek out the nearest cafe the
soonest. Or at least, it is in mine, anyway.
That was actually sort of cool, truth be told. ::chuckles::
For us, there are a group of people who can influence the forward position,
which tends to amount to anyone who cares to send the information forward.
There anywhere between five and seven slots for people working in the forward
position.
However, there are no set rules as to who fills those slots or for how long. It
is more like -- whoever feels like being there, or has something to say or
contribute, just does.
I was wondering about the midcontinuum case earlier and wondering how it would
come into play here. Hmm... there might be groups that are high-level
midcontinuum, there are others whose setup allows them to function as though
they are midcontinuum, and then there's the close-to-singlet sort of midcont.
But then, these are just ramblings off the top of my head. And count me in as
another who loves the term singlicity ;-)
Storm
From pbw@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:17 2001
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:05:20 -0500
From: pbw@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas,
More Thoughts, by Laric
"You know, we were talking to someone about this, and they noted that they seem
to have a certain finite number of "slots" open for frontrunners (either to be
co-present, or just to be present at all)"
Yes! Precisely that. This was sort of what Stella was thinking about in her old
essay that didn't explain itself so well... we'll likely write more thoughts
about this later today, if we've the time. But to get a general idea of where a
group 'stands' by how many people they have fully up and active on an average
basis.
Do those slots vary? Do they make a difference? We're about six to seven, with a
dozen or so directly behind us at any given time to keep us company, for
example... past that second layer and we'd have to call. It's a case of being
across the street rather than in the next room, so to speak.
We're very bad about keeping track with ourselves.
From pbw@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:17 2001
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 12:05:11 -0500
From: pbw@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas, Laric and Kyth, by Laric
Body of Kyth Chandler, but recently quite controlled by Laric and his
supporters--the Seraphs, which are often called the Malachim when the far-kinder
supporters of Kyth are out and about, are entering a bit of a darker mood for
themselves of late.
They have very large wounded spots over the subject of singlets, having been
raised partially by one who wanted them to be the same, and then falling into a
number of relationships with mid-conts who were closer to the singlet scale.
Having recently come off another breakup, the Seraphs aren't at all inclined to
sympathy for poor John Smith... although, since they're a healthy plural group,
they're still capable of being polite and good company. Bless plurality.
From pbw@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:17 2001
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 16:05:19 -0500
From: pbw@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas, Bredai..., by Bredai
Bredai is a native of this place whose culture called her to the Warrior class,
in the occasion when such a class was necessary. Sh'ey is in her mid-twenties,
and persuing her studies off-planet with occasional visits home to make certain
that her twin isn't getting themselves into trouble. Not that they are unable
to take care of themselves; contrary, sh'ey just wants to join in the fun.
Sh'ey is wary and untrusting of singlets, and tends to judge first and ask
questions later when it comes to them. On occasion, sh'ey even doubts their
existance or whether they were merely cast out into a body on their own as a
sort of group punishment for them.
There is a dark faction of Bredai that is constantly trying to take control, but
a system of checks and balances keeps the control from being totally lost at any
given time. No one wants to know what will happen if this control is lost, but
extends energy trying to keep it from occurring.
(Side note: Heh... sh'ey would be the feminine bodied form of they-as-a-
single-bodied-group that popped into my head while writing this, so I'm going
with it.)
From pbw@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:17 2001
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:05:22 -0500
From: pbw@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas,
doh, by Courts (Admin)
...I have no idea who's up for posting for John now.
With luck, it's probably me. :) Reb
From pbw@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:17 2001
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 02:05:15 -0500
From: pbw@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas,
posting..., by Astraea
We're up for posting for something... but probabl not John right now, probably
something in the coffeeshop. Things'll be better for us after the 13th when we
have our last history exam and all our fall classes are on the Internet. Gabe
From pbw@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:17 2001
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:05:48 -0500
From: pbw@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas,
Tests, yuck, by Courts (Admin)
Ugh, good luck with that.
We'll pick up John until then, but anyone who wants to post for him can. :)
From nobody@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:17 2001
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:05:22 -0500
From: nobody@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject:
2-Veritas, woo, by Courts (Admin)
I know few people check this, but. >_> <_< >_>
We're skipping town over the weekend to drive in a semi-comatose and feverish
state down to Maryland to attand a convention filled by rabid anime fans on 4
hours of sleep before 24 hours of awake.
We'll be a WEE bit slow on posting. Sorry, guys. Feel free to explode the city
while we're gone.
(*winces somewhere in Maryland and clutches head* Gee, wonder why I smell
smoke...)
From nobody@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:17 2001
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 16:05:28 -0500
From: nobody@playbyweb.com
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas, anime con???, by Shaytar
oooo, luckies!!!
We were gonna do that once... an old friend of Tavam's is in Maryland and goes
to those cons (she's a GW/FF7 fan, big surprise they got along ;)
Have lots of fun!!
Who needs sleep anyway? ^_~
Tadeus
From auto@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:17 2001
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:06:16 -0500
From: Courts
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas, moooo...
Must resist urge to seek out.. MU space and room for running Veritas in real-
time..
Any thoughts?
From auto@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:17 2001
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:06:49 -0500
From: Bravadai
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas, ooh!
*Ashlyn gets trampled by the lot of MU* addicts that exist within Bravadai.
I love the idea... a real-time Veritas... *sigh*
Or, if all else fails, it could be run as a subset of the Blue Frog MOO, which
might I add is currently mostly deadness. :p
(Wait, isn't it still in beta? Can we mention it in public yet?) Bleah,
whatever. Anyway.
Just saying we love the idea and tossing out that suggestion just in case. :)
Ashlyn & co
From auto@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:17 2001
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:07:13 -0500
From: Astraea
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: 2-Veritas, Moo?
Our concern would be privacy.
One major reason we are posting so freely to OtherWorlds is that it's a closed
list. There certainly are people we don't know on it like rheidyr and we know
there are people lurking, but we have full faith in the Army's list managers. We
know they won't let anyone in who isn't serious, or who would just waste all of
our time asking CLUELESS questions, or who would get into our confidence and
then take advantage like what Azusa and ourselves were talking about.
We have not advertised or publicised the existence of OtherWorlds on Astraea's
Web. And we won't.
We're even a little worried about the stuff we post here, to Veritas. Maybe they
have it set up so that what you post here doesn't get spidered. Yesterday we
found old WorldsWithin posts turning up in a Google search on something else. We
don't want that to happen here.
How would we keep a Veritas MOO a closed shop as well?
Choi John Shaobek
From auto@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:17 2001
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 22:05:17 -0500
From: Shaytar
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: Veritas, onwards...?
Is there anything we can do to help get things going again?
I know the last week has been terrible, but having something like Veritas back
up and running would help balance the keel a little.
Strength to you all,
Tadeus
From auto@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:17 2001
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:05:19 -0500
From: Courts
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: Veritas, whew
Whew, here's most recent.
As always, just regular posts, ideas, fun things like that are more than
welcome. Sorry for being distracted sky-high and away. ^^
From auto@playbyweb.com Mon Nov 5 22:35:17 2001
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:07:19 -0500
From: Courts
To: astraea@astraeasweb.net
Subject: Veritas, Folks
Due to half our playerbase not following us from Play By Web v1.0, and due to
all our lives getting dragged into a lot of stress and mud due to recent events,
the Courts are going to put Veritas on hold for a little while unless people
have more of an interest. We'll archieve it to our site, and then delete the
board by the end of this week unless someone protests. Danke for it all--I know
that everyone has RL commitments.
Read the Veritas story at
http://www.kitsune.cx/courts/veritas.html